The Frye Jillian Oxford Black Leather Lace Up Shoes in size 8.5 Medium are a stylish and versatile option for women. With a round toe shape, solid black color, and leather lining and upper material, these flats are perfect for the summer, fall, and spring seasons. The lace-up closure provides a secure fit, while the Frye brand ensures high quality and lasting durability. Ideal for everyday wear or casual outings, these shoes are a classic addition to any wardrobe.

For sizing purposes: I wear an 8, they almost fit. With thicker socks, sure.  If your feet are narrow, I wouldn't suggest.  Medium fine.  Wide likely would work.