BOTH MADE BY-CAREER DEVELOPMENT CENTER. FROM 1974. CONDITION-BOTH HAVE A LOT OF LIGHT SCRATCHES THAT CAN BE SEEN UNDER A LIGHT. SIZE-2 1/2" and 1 3/4"     *****SHIPPED IN A BOX.    *****paypal accepted. smoke free.     *****I COMBINE SHIPPING. IF YOU PURCHASE MORE THAN 1 ITEM. PLEASE WAIT FOR A REVISED INVOICE BEFORE PAYING. be sure to check out my ebay store. thanks for looking.