Yes, experienced violinists can often distinguish between a pernambuco bow and an amourette (also known as snakewood or unfigured snakewood) bow when picking it up and playing it, though it's not always immediate or obvious without direct comparison.
Key Differences in Feel and Play
Visual cues (plain reddish-brown for amourette vs. the often figured, orange-brown "snakeskin" grain of pernambuco) help initially, but playing reveals the differences most clearly—especially in off-the-string strokes, dynamics, and articulation.
Performance of François and Dominique Peccatte Amourette Bows
Both François and Dominique Peccatte (brothers and renowned 19th-century French bowmakers) produced some bows in amourette, likely as a substitute during pernambuco shortages. These are rarer and typically less valuable than their pernambuco examples (often 1/4 to 1/5 the price), but high-quality ones can play exceptionally well due to the makers' skill.
Overall, Peccatte amourette bows can be superb and even preferred by some players for their focus and power, but most professionals consider pernambuco superior for responsiveness and tonal warmth in modern playing. Exceptional examples (like the one in the forum) stand out, proving the maker's artistry can elevate the material. These bows are more common in baroque or transitional styles today, where snakewood's qualities shine.
Dominique Peccatte (1810–1874) primarily used high-quality pernambuco for his bows, which are celebrated for their power, density, projection, and balanced suppleness—especially during his best Paris period (roughly 1838–1847). Amourette (also called snakewood or unfigured snakewood) bows by him are quite rare and represent an experimental or alternative material choice rather than his standard output.
Amourette is a dense, dark hardwood (heavier per volume than pernambuco in many cases), sometimes showing a faint mottled or snake-like figure, though “amourette” often refers to plainer pieces. Mid-19th-century French makers, including the Peccatte family and school, occasionally turned to it (or similar exotic woods) when pernambuco supplies varied or for specific tonal experiments. Confirmed examples exist, such as an unstamped Dominique Peccatte violin bow with a round amourette stick and nickel mounts weighing around 58.5–60g.
Playing Characteristics and Insights
Player and dealer opinions on amourette Peccatte bows are mixed and subjective—the maker’s craftsmanship often shines through more than the wood itself:
Peccatte’s spontaneous, prolific style means even his amourette bows retain his signature bold hatchet head, strong camber, and powerful frog design—qualities that can elevate the material beyond generic snakewood bows.
Market and Value Perspective
Amourette versions trade at a significant discount compared to pernambuco Peccattes (often 1/4 to 1/5 the price or less, depending on condition, mounts, and certification). Pernambucos in excellent condition from his best period routinely reach $80,000–$250,000+ at auction/private sale (with outliers higher), while documented amourette examples have sold in the low-to-mid thousands historically (e.g., around £20,000–£50,000 range in older sales, adjusted for inflation and specifics). They appeal more as collector curiosities or affordable entry points into Peccatte craftsmanship than as primary investment or concert tools. Resale can be slower due to the material preference for pernambuco in the high-end market.
Final Thoughts
Dominique Peccatte amourette violin bows are fascinating outliers—proof of his versatility and the 19th-century French makers’ willingness to experiment with woods. They offer a warmer, denser tonal alternative that some players love for its richness and character, but they generally lack the quick response, projection, and all-around authority of his finest pernambuco work. If you have (or are considering) one, its success will depend heavily on the specific bow’s camber, graduations, condition, and how it mates with your instrument and playing style. A hands-on trial is essential, ideally alongside a comparable pernambuco Peccatte.
These bows remind us that while pernambuco became the gold standard, a great maker’s hand can coax musical magic from alternative materials too. Experience the Peccatte magic in Amourette.
"From my own experience, I have found Pernambuco to have a quicker attack as opposed to Amourette (non-figured snake wood) being a bit slower. The sound of Amourette is warmer and rounder than Pernambuco. A bit like playing an awesome Tubbs, which plays like a Rolls-Royce as opposed to a Sartory. Both Amourette and Pernambuco are generally of equal strength. Both species have weak and stiff sticks."
Chris Weiden (Maestronet)
"Personally - not really. I think with the Peccatte school makers the differences in the approach to camber are dominant, and that wood density (whether pernambuco or amourette or abeille) is far more important than the species.
But we did sell an amourette F. Peccatte to a very fine player a couple of months ago - he has now given us his pernambuco FX Tourte to sell. He's not the only very serious player and bow nerd who prefers it ...
Generally I've found it easier to sell non-pernambuco bows to viola players. But that may be because viola players have a wider take on what constitutes good sound than violinists."
Martin Swan (Maestronet)
Silver mounted. (All parts original).
Superior quality ebony for the frog (Original).
62 grams.
Ivory tip-plate (original).
Tinsel lapping (original).
The dark thumb of the one bow is original.
I will provide more photos by the end of the month. For now, let me know if you have a serious interest in learning more about these fine bows by Dominique Peccatte. The sale will be contingent upon certification, appraisal, and condition report if available. Allow three to six weeks for certification. Willing to negotiate a lower price (based on 2011 pricing) on a direct sale. Serious inquires only, please. Bow Collectors welcome! More photos to come shortly.
You will of course get a chance to play the bow and make up your own mind as to whether it is a keeper or not. TBA.
By the way, if you think that eBay is not the place to engage in the buying of a Dominique Peccatte violin bow ... no problem!
I can make the bow available at any of the major violin shops in these cities on a consignment basis.
Reuning & Son (Boston).
Warren & Son (Chicago).
Los Angles Violin Shop.
Tarisio Private Sales. (NYC)
Vermont (James Banicki Violins -- Essex Junction).
I need to know if you are a domestic buyer or you are based outside of the U.S. This request is based upon the new CITES regulations now enforced with all national custom enforcement agencies relative to pernambuco wood bows and bows with ivory tip plates. These two bows are not pernambuco wood bows but they both have unblemished ivory tip plates.
Let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
What are you waiting for if you can't afford Dominique Peccatte in pernambuco (150k and up). If you had a DP bow in Amourette and one in Pernambuco, chances are you would not be able to tell which was which, but would initially pick the Amourette over the Pernambuco bow because of the buttery sound —i.e., warmer, rounder, richer, or more resonant tone with good clarity.
Willing to sell this DP Amourette violin bow and the other DP Amourette violin bow on a lot sale basis for 110k USD, but only on a direct sale basis, both bows certified prior to sale. Yes, you read that right: both DP Amourette violin bows for a total direct sale of 110k USD inclusive of certificates or through another vendor of your choice in the list above.
I can't do returns for foreign buyers. The new CITES regulations (as of March 5th) makes it too risky given the ivory top plates. But if you come to the U.S. for the bows, let me know in advance.
For those domestic buyers who feel queasy about plunking down X amount of USD for a bow on trial, I can make the bow available in several major U.S. cities or Tarisio Private Sales on a consignment basis. Then you can test the bow without first paying and go from there in your decision making process. Bow collectors most welcome!
Amourette is a dense, dark hardwood
(heavier per volume than pernambuco in many cases), sometimes showing a faint
mottled or snake-like figure, though “amourette” often refers to plainer
pieces. Mid-19th-century French makers, including the Peccatte family and
school, occasionally turned to it (or similar exotic woods) when pernambuco
supplies varied or for specific tonal experiments. Confirmed examples exist,
such as an unstamped Dominique Peccatte violin bow with a round amourette stick
and nickel mounts weighing around 58.5–60g.
Playing
Characteristics and Insights
Player and dealer opinions on
amourette Peccatte bows are mixed and subjective—the maker’s craftsmanship
often shines through more than the wood itself:
Peccatte’s spontaneous, prolific
style means even his amourette bows retain his signature bold hatchet head,
strong camber, and powerful frog design—qualities that can elevate the material
beyond generic snakewood bows.
Market
and Value Perspective
Amourette versions trade at a
significant discount compared to pernambuco Peccattes (often 1/4 to 1/5 the
price or less, depending on condition, mounts, and certification). Pernambucos
in excellent condition from his best period routinely reach $80,000–$250,000+
at auction/private sale (with outliers higher), while documented amourette
examples have sold in the low-to-mid thousands historically (e.g., around £20,000–£50,000
range in older sales, adjusted for inflation and specifics). They appeal more
as collector curiosities or affordable entry points into Peccatte craftsmanship
than as primary investment or concert tools. Resale can be slower due to the
material preference for pernambuco in the high-end market.
Final
Thoughts
Dominique Peccatte amourette violin
bows are fascinating outliers—proof of his versatility and the 19th-century
French makers’ willingness to experiment with woods. They offer a warmer,
denser tonal alternative that some players love for its richness and character,
but they generally lack the quick response, projection, and all-around
authority of his finest pernambuco work. If you have (or are considering) one,
its success will depend heavily on the specific bow’s camber, graduations,
condition, and how it mates with your instrument and playing style. A hands-on
trial is essential, ideally alongside a comparable pernambuco Peccatte.