In 1816 there was only one type of 8 Reales issued by the Mexico City Mint, the 1816 JJ.

Some previously used dies from 1815 that had been refurbished had part of their date showing on the 1816. This created the 1816/5. 

 On the Portrait 8 Reales which started in 1772, the practice at the mint was to identify the assayers by placing, on the reverse, the senior assayer’s initial first when going around the coin clockwise, using the initial of what we call “the first name” in the United States of America. “Senior” refers to the assayer hired first at the mint.

Joaquin Davila Madrid was an assayer from 1809 into 1833 and Jose Garcia Ansaldo from 1812 into 1833. 

In 1816 the initials JJ refer to these 2 assayers.

This coin is from the Draped Bust series that began in 1811 and ended in 1821.  The silver purity level throughout the Draped Bust series was 90.3% pure silver, having been increased from the earlier purity level of 89.6% that existed starting in 1791 and lasted through the Armored Bust series concluding in 1811.

This coin is the overdate 1816/5 JJ.  Why is this an overdate?  First, for the 1816/5 you need to know what the 5 looks like, so you can see which parts of this number are visible. 

The upper left part of the 6 has the straight line of the upper left part of the 5 coming out and turning right to form the top of the 5.

The rarity of overdates varies, depending on the year of production.  This overdate is not as rare as the 1815/4 but still may take a few years to find, if you search often.

Photography:

The physical appearance of a coin will differ depending on the type and intensity of the light under which we view the coin.  I use a 100 watt incandescent light bulb at a distance of about 1 foot.

Sales Information

DOMESTIC SALES - FREE SHIPPING. 

Tracking Numbers:  I will post a tracking number after I ship to you.

 INTERNATIONAL SALES 

I am now currently making international sales. 

As I understand it, if you can see my listing, you can buy it from outside the USA.  My shipping it to Kentucky is free to you.  The part about getting your coin from Kentucky to you has all been worked out by Global Shipping.  Supposedly, you can see your mailing costs, etc.

Payment

As I understand it, you are restricted to using only Paypal as has been the case for many years.

I would appreciate your paying me in a timely fashion after the close of the sale.

Other Information

My shipment to you:  The 8^th largest city in the USA no longer has a Post Office open after 5:00PM Monday through Friday. My mail route is “a training route” so I no longer have any idea who is going to be delivering my mail, or at what time of day.  I am not going to leave a $50-$500 coin outside to be picked up by “whomever”.  Given all of this, if you win and pay for a coin this morning, it probably won’t be put in the mail this afternoon.  They are taken to the Post Office to be mailed.

Returns:  This is a collector coin and not just some chunk of silver bullion.  If you do not feel that this coin is “right for you” after you have examined it, send an email letting me know it is coming back to me.  Return shipping cost is at the buyer’s expense.  Return it at your convenience, preferably within 14 days. The shipping to you is at my expense for domestic shipping. 

This is an old collector’s coin, and you and I both know, as coin collectors, sometimes a coin that looks good from photos does not measure up to our expectations.  After you have looked at it, if you decide that it is “not for you”, you don’t have to list a bunch of reasons why you have decided you do not want it.  Just let me know that you will be sending it back so that I will know to expect it.  I have other old 8 Reales.  If for some reason you don’t feel satisfied with this coin, that doesn’t mean you won’t be happy with the next one you win.

Please read everything I have stated to you about this coin, if I have made any specific comments about it.  If there is something of interest to you about the coin that I did not explain to you in this listing, send an email.