Well we've got a real special collection just in time for Christmas here it's the timberland pro line which is the top of the line for the timberland company and of all the pro categories these are actually from the highest category which allow you to add knee pads they have reinforced knees and rear end area heavy duty YKK zippers and bespoke end caps and buttons, it even has a magnetic closing pocket as well as zippered pockets you name it it's also made of 60.66 ripstop nylon which is one of the heavy duty brands and also the kedora brand of ripped up nylon so basically you're getting the elite of the elite here this is the kind of thing that's great for hiking through the woods just anything outdoorsy also great for electric bikes and electric scooters and electric skateboards and you can even add knee pads into the special pockets that are custom built for it and the beauty is most of the time when these pants are sold you have to go get your own knee pads but we've actually got color matching knee pads for each one and there are special type of knee pad material that is very flexible within as soon as you like hit it or punch it it becomes very rigid and hard so you get an amazing blue pair size 48 they're both size 48 they've never been worn and you got one in the blue color and one in the gray color you also get blue knee pads with the blue ones and gray white knee pads with the gray color pants they're both 48 size and well they are identical in almost every way except for their different colors the gray pair is apparently one level even higher up even than the blue ones which are already at the top level because they have the additional outer sort of like a second layer of pockets outside of your normal pockets that you would put money or your hands in and these seem to be like an additional layer of pocket that sort of goes over the inner pockets but they sort of hang out and you can tell they're clearly made to hold tools or something heavy duty like that so if you have hammers and screwdrivers and that kind of stuff you need to get to maybe flashlights very quickly these outer pouches would be perfect for that kind of stuff these pants were originally 225 and 250 each so you're talking including the knee pads $500 so our price is actually an incredibly competitive and incredibly fair price for these considering the quality you're getting and considering they include top level knee pads that are higher quality than the ones you would typically get for pants like these